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Cover Oregon Town Hall: Democrats and Republicans Argue Over Who is to Blame, Where to Go From Here

By all accounts Cover Oregon has been a spectacular failure. The state was granted $300 million dollars on an ambitious website that, to date, has not enrolled a single person. Thursday night, Portland News station KATU held a televised town hall to discuss what went wrong and where Oregon should go from here.

The town hall was not structured as a debate but one quickly developed between two Republican state representatives who were extremely critical of the failure and two Democrats who alternated between placing blame on Oracle, the primary contractor, and suggesting moving forward was more important than placing blame.

Rep. Dennis Richardson was one of the Republican critics. In 2012 he became alarmed by what he read in quality assurance reports created by a firm called Maximus. The Maximus reports made clear the project was understaffed, under-budget and falling behind schedule. Rep. Richardson says he sent copies of the reports along with a letter to the state officials in charge of the project demanding to know what was being done. He received no response.

Rep. Jason Conger, the other Republican on the panel, says officials in charge including executive director Rocky King, who left his job in December, should have known better than to try to pull off a project of this scope without hiring an IT contractor to run it. "I think it reflects a certain amount of arrogance that it could be done in the timeframe, that it could be done at all," Conger said.

But others on the panel tried to emphasize the positive. Democratic Rep. Mitch Greenlick suggested it was time to move forward saying ,“We’re trying to get things solved and I think trying to find out who is the bad guy is probably over.” He also claimed that he had no access to the QA reports that had alarmed Rep. Richardson in 2012.

Dr. Elizabeth Steiner Hayward, a Democratic State Senator who sits on the Committee on Health admitted part of the problem was “we bit off more than we could chew.” But she directed most of the blame for the failure at Oracle, saying "We were misled. I’d go as far as saying betrayed.” Dr. Steiner Hayward added "We hire IT professionals because we believe they’re going to tell us the truth…unfortunately in this case that didn’t work out so well."

At this point, about halfway through the 90 minute town hall, a more fundamental debate about the efficiency of government broke out among the panelists. Rep. Mitch Greenlick, who had earlier said the time for casting blame was over, reacted strongly to the suggestion that the government had tried and failed to do the job of private enterprise. "It’s private enterprise that screwed it up," Greenlick said, adding "I think the problem was we had too much faith in private enterprise in this case."

That didn't go over well with Rep. Richardson who recalled a bit of Ronald Reagan in his response "We’re from the government, we’re here to help. We can run a $200 million IT project." The last line was delivered as sarcasm. Richardson said the problem wasn't private enterprise it was "a failure in leadership to run this program."

As for the future of Cover Oregon there was a sharp disagreement about that as well. Rep. Conger was pessimistic. "I think we’re continuing to throw good money after bad...I’m having serious doubts about whether it will ever work," he said. Conger suggested seeking a waiver from CMS to allow the state to return to earlier programs that were working better.

Rep. Richardson pointed to the fiscal problem going forward "We’re not gong to break even so ultimately we’re either going to shut it down or take money from the general fund.”

Ultimately, the decision as to what happens next may not be up to anyone in Oregon. The GAO is currently investigating how federal grants to the state were spent. And near the end of the show a former Oregon representative, Patrick Sheehan, told the KATU host that he had contacted the FBI and asked them to look into the situation. Asked if an FBI investigation was taking place, Sheehan refused to say, though he did suggest obliquely that a big file was being put together.

Rep. Greenlick responded that there was no evidence of any illegality. Rep. Richardson once again took issue with that assessment saying, "When you have 200 million of federal money that has been expended…there may well be a federal law broken. We need the GAO audit. We need the FBI involved."

As the town hall neared its end, Dr. Steiner Hayward returned to the issue of government vs. private enterprise. She told the story of a friend who had started a business with the help from experts. She said her friend eventually reached the point where the business started making a profit but that didn't happen right away. She summed up her story saying "to hold the govt to be able to break even immediately in a way that we don’t hold private companies…I’m not sure that’s really fair."

Rep. Richardson closed with a call for accountability saying, "We’re talking about $200 million...govt can’t just spend other people’s money and then just say ‘I’m sorry’" when things fall apart.

Rep. Conger got in the last word with a question, "Given the failure so far and given the lack of value…do we continue to spend more money on it?" That's the question that Gov. Kitzhaber, legislators and Oregon's citizens now have to wrestle with.

Watch the town hall event in its entirety below:


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