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NBC's Today Show Once Again Goes After George Zimmerman

Sep 26, 2013 10:27 AM PT

NBC has once again used its flagship morning show to insinuate that George Zimmerman, a man who has already been acquitted by a jury, may have gotten away with murder.

Recall that NBC did more than any other network to convince viewers that George Zimmerman was a racist and therefore probably a murderer before his trial. It was NBC that misleadingly edited the 911 call so that it had Zimmerman saying "This guy looks like he’s up to no good … he looks black." Last December Zimmerman filed a lawsuit accusing NBC of "journalistic crimes."

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More Post-Trayvon Martin Shooting Race-Baiting From Democrats

Aug 26, 2013 3:34 PM PT

Just when you thought you would have a reprieve from all of the post-Trayvon Martin shooting race-baiting by black community leaders and members of Congress, I offer you the recent op-ed by Democratic Congresswoman Frederica Wilson.

Here are excerpts of Wilson ‘March on Washington’ was about freedom — and jobs' op-ed  the Miami Herald just posted:

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How The Racialist Narrative Messes With Peoples' Heads

Aug 26, 2013 7:52 AM PT

In response to The hate-crimes narrative:

 Yes, most people know that certain black neighborhoods are undesirable places to be walking around at night. They know it's because blacks commit more crimes. No one knows it better than the blacks who live in those neighborhoods, or white liberals like Chris Mathews who wouldn't dream of being within five miles of one. I can't speak for lo-fos. Those people don't even know who the Vice President is.

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The hate-crimes narrative

Aug 26, 2013 5:46 AM PT

In response to RE Hate Crime Hypocrisy :

I should clarify that if the sort of "tit for tat" reporting we're discussing consists of quickie blog posts with a photo of the perps in the Lane and Belton murders, accompanied by a paragraph or so of Nelson Muntz laughter, then yes, that's just lazy and pointless.  I mean to defend serious analysis, not random link-hunting artillery barrages.

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Hate-crimes hypocrisy

Aug 25, 2013 7:55 AM PT

In response to The Racial Tit-for-Tat of Crime Reporting:

I would agree that pointlessly dwelling on the race of the perpetrators in the recent spate of black-on-white crimes would be wrong, Joel, but I don't think it's "pointless" at all.  For one thing, unlike the phatasmagorical politically-conjured boogeyman of trigger-happy white and "white Hispanic" neighborhood watch guys hunting down black youth for sport, gang violence is a very real menace, to young people of every racial background.  It is highly likely that the murders of both Chris Lane and Delbert Belton had gang connections.  In Lane's case, the local man who turned in the perps is convinced they were gangster initiates, and believes his own son would have been the next victim.  

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The Racial Tit-for-Tat of Crime Reporting

Aug 25, 2013 5:37 AM PT

Back when the George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin story first exploded onto the national scene, with false accounts of a "white" shooter and edited 911 calls, we at Breitbart News made an editorial decision not to become involved in the racial tit-for-tat reporting that tempted many other sites. There was no reason to draw attention to the hypocrisy of the media and the so-called civil rights establishment regarding crimes where the racial labels were reversed, because the labels in the Martin case were wrong in the first place.

I dislike the tit-for-tat stories anyway. The fact that the media and the left are obsessed with race does not mean the rest of us must be. And there is the very real danger that in trying to demonstrate the hypocrisy of race-mongers like Al Sharpton and the journalists who follow eagerly in their wake, focusing on the race of perpetrators and victims ends up emphasizing stereotypes and inflaming passions--quite independently of the argument at hand. We risk becoming no better than those hypocrites whom we would criticize.

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Retired Pastor George Zimmermann Gets Death Threats

Jul 25, 2013 10:44 AM PT

The anger being directed at George Zimmerman has spilled over into death threats against a man with a similar name in Florida.

George Zimmermann (two n's) is a retired pastor living in Florida's Volusia county. He is 78 years old. After the verdict finding the other George Zimmeman (one n) not guilty, he has received death threats by phone in the middle of the night:

"Hey (expletive) you're the one who killed Trayvon Martin, when your (expletive) get out, you're dead. Wherever you go, you're dead. Wherever you're trying to hide, you're dead. Watch your (expletive) move. You think you're free. You're not. You better get ready to dig a 6-foot hole. Cause you know you're fixing to go," the caller said.

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Family Aided by George Zimmerman Cancels Press Conference

Jul 24, 2013 10:30 AM PT

The Orlando Sentinel has published 911 calls which came in after a car crash in Sanford, Florida on July 17th. George Zimmerman was identified by one of the victims as one of two people who helped pull his family from an overturned vehicle.

Though Zimmerman is not mentioned by name, callers do mention that there are already people at the scene of the crash helping to pull the family out of the overturned Ford Explorer. No one was injured in the one vehicle crash.

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Mob harassment spreads to elderly preacher named George Zimmerman

Jul 24, 2013 9:11 AM PT

Not only are George Zimmerman and his family in hiding because of death threats from the "Justice 4 Trayvon" mob, but now they're going after a 78-year-old preacher from Deland, Florida, who just happens to be named George Zimmerman. 

The UK Daily Mail says the preacher has been "plagued by abusive phone calls," including such lovely sentiments as "you're a dead man" and "you better get ready to dig a six-foot hole."  Most of the calls include profanity.

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EW Jackson Pounds Obama For 'Racializing' Zimmerman Case

Jul 23, 2013 6:58 AM PT

EW Jackson is running for Lt. Governor of Virginia and as an African-American Republican, he has a unique insight and message for President Obama with regard to his recent comments about the George Zimmerman murder trial.  Jackson appeared on "Mornings on the Mall" on WMAL in Washington DC this morning with me and co-host Brian Wilson. 

I pointed out the president's remarks from Friday and asked him, "The president says he could have been Trayvon, Rev. Jackson, could you have been Trayvon?"

"The president racialized it, making it about a black man, making it about being African-American, making it about a racial confrontation. I don't think it was racial at all.  I prefer to think of it this way - any young American could have been in the same situation. You know, young people have a lot of swagger - they're part of this whole pop culture, and they don't like being challenged. Any young person."

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Video from the Justice for Trayvon Rally in Los Angeles

Jul 22, 2013 5:02 PM PT

The "Justice for Trayvon" rally in LA Saturday lasted about two hours. I shot about an hour of video and have now trimmed that down to around 5 minutes. As you'll see, the speakers were all over the map. Some were fairly militant and blamed America while others seemed to downplay the racial aspect of the situation. I've also included a brief media squabble (one of two I witnessed, the other one was worse) over the major media claiming space in the front row.

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The 'Stand Your Ground' crusade is about taking political ground

Jul 22, 2013 2:53 PM PT

In response to There's No Appetite For Repealing Stand Your Ground Laws:

I suspect you're right about the dim prospects for success in the great Stand Your Ground jihad.  There's very little reason to suspect they're a problem, either from a legal standpoint, or the general opinion of voters.  Striking down a law that makes things tough on home invaders isn't going to fire up the popular imagination, in the absence of compelling evidence that it's causing harm to innocent people.

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Zimmerman Saves Family of Four in Florida Car Crash, Extinguishes Car Fire

Jul 22, 2013 10:35 AM PT


On Wednesday, July 17 at about 5:45 PM  Sanford Police responded to a single car accident in the area of I- 4 and State Road 46 in Sanford. A blue Ford Explorer SUV  traveled off the road and rolled over. There were four occupants inside the vehicle, two parents and two children.  An eyewitness to the accident told Breitbart News the SUV lost control in front of the witness's car. The SUV later caught fire.

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Trayvon Martin Alleged to Have Assaulted His Teacher, Dad Denies It

Jul 22, 2013 8:41 AM PT

During the National Action Network’s rally in Miami, Florida, where 2000 supporters of the groups efforts to pressure the Department of Justice to file civil rights charges against George Zimmerman, Tracy Martin, the father of Trayvon Martin took questions from reporters gathered to cover the event. Martin was asked if  one of the real reason Trayvon Martin was suspended from his school in Miami was due to “an altercation” he alleged to have had with one of his school teachers.

 Mr. Martin answered that “he could not confirm that” and he had “no knowledge” of the purported incident. Martin added that “we all knew he was suspended from school” and that it was his decision to take him up to Orlando. When asked if he thought it just a rumor that his son Trayvon had “an altercation” with his teacher, Martin said that “it wasn’t anything like he had an issue with his teacher.”

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Obama Delivers the Zimmerman Coda

Jul 22, 2013 5:18 AM PT

In response to It's Deja Vu All Over Again With Obama's Trayvon Speech:

In all fairness, the President did make a few oblique references to crime problems in the black community, although it was very understated compared to his race-baiting and the official launch of his Destroy All Stand Your Ground Laws crusade.  As you noted, he had absolutely nothing to say about race-baiting or the Trayvon mythology spread by professional agitators, or black-on-white violence.  Mentioning either of those topics would have enraged and dismayed his base, and he doesn't want his supporters spending a heartbeat thinking about anything that would make George Zimmerman's behavior look reasonable.

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It's Deja Vu All Over Again With Obama's Trayvon Speech

Jul 21, 2013 9:19 PM PT

In response to You're Not Doing Obama a Favor by Praising His Trayvon Speech:

The media's reaction to Obama's Trayvon speech is deja-vu all over again. It's like their reaction to Obama's inane 2008 race speech, (written by a 26 year old), and containing all the same elements all his speeches do, (as Ace noted the other day)"things which are true, but obvious even to kindergarteners, things which are not obvious, because they are not true, and heroic self-reference." In 2008,  the media  swooned en masse over the  profundity, like Pavlov's dogs conditioned to salivate at certain stimuli.

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You're Not Doing Obama a Favor by Praising His Trayvon Speech

Jul 21, 2013 6:40 PM PT

The Business Insider tells us: "People Are Saying Obama's Off-The-Cuff Speech On Race Was One Of His Most Important Ever." That sounds wonderful for Obama, and is intended as praise, but is actually rather damning.

The entire premise of the speech was a lie. Race had nothing to do with the trial of George Zimmerman, as both the prosecution and defense said, and no evidence that he profiled Trayvon Martin because of his race. 

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ACLU to Holder: Zimmerman case is over

Jul 21, 2013 11:06 AM PT

In a letter from the ACLU to Attorney General Eric Holder:

We are writing to clearly state the ACLU’s position on whether or not the Department of Justice (DOJ) should consider bringing federal civil rights or hate crimes charges as a result of the state court acquittal in the George Zimmerman case. Even though the Supreme Court permits a federal prosecution following a state prosecution, the ACLU believes the Double Jeopardy Clause of the Constitution protects someone from being prosecuted in another court for charges arising from the same transaction. A jury found Zimmerman not guilty, and that should be the end of the criminal case.

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Relentless campaign of demonization brings George Zimmerman approval ratings down to Barack Obama levels

Jul 21, 2013 8:19 AM PT

This is what happens when you're targeted by the dishonest media, which spends a year actively framing you as a racist, and then become a hate fetish for coast-to-coast rallies whipped up by professional racial agitators: you end up with approval ratings roughly comparable to Barack Obama's

 Obama: 44% approve, 48% disapprove.  Zimmerman: 32% approve, 48% disapprove.

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Suspicion and skin color

Jul 20, 2013 10:12 PM PT

One of the constant refrains during angry reaction to George Zimmerman's acquittal for murder is that Trayvon Martin was killed purely because of his skin color.  Even the Race-Baiter-In-Chief pushed this line during one of the more disgusting passages in his surprise press appearance on Friday, when he said there was “a sense that if a white male teen was involved in the same kind of scenario that, from top to bottom, both the outcome and aftermath might have been different.”  Obama apologists have claimed he was talking about the outcome of the trial, which doesn't make any sense - he said "from top to bottom."  He clearly means he doesn't think the encounter between Martin and Zimmerman would have played out the same way if Trayvon Martin had been a white teenager.

This is true to a certain extent, insofar as George Zimmerman was on the lookout for several black youths who had committed burglaries and break-ins in his neighborhood.  A white teenager would not have resembled these particular miscreants.  But there's no way to say for certain that Zimmerman wouldn't have taken an interest in a white teenager dressed like Trayvon Martin, and behaving the same way he was.  Remember, contrary to the best audio-doctoring work of the slander artists at NBC "News," Zimmerman didn't say a word about Martin's race until he was specifically asked to do so by the 911 operator he was talking to.

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Trayvon protesters vow 'no justice, no peace'

Jul 20, 2013 9:48 PM PT

With Barack Obama, the Race-Baiter-In-Chief, smiling down upon them, Al Sharpton and his minions got their festival of racial paranoia and hatred going from coast-to-coast on Saturday.  Among other things, there were calls to boycott various tourist attractions and businesses in Florida, none of which had anything whatsoever to do with the George Zimmerman murder trial.  I guess the idea is to punish the entire state for obeying the rule of law.

The festivities didn't sound very constructive or "inclusive," judging from the hoary old battle cries related by the Associated Press:

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A Picture of Hate Worth 1000 Words

Jul 20, 2013 5:48 PM PT

This picture was taken at the Trayvon Martin rally in Staten Island, NY on Saturday July 20, 2013. If this is tolerance on display and the new civility ... Count me out.

At the 'Justice for Trayvon' Rally in Los Angeles

Jul 20, 2013 4:29 PM PT

Al Sharpton's National Action Network held a "Justice for Trayvon" rally in downtown Los Angeles this morning. I estimate there were 200-300 people in attendance with probably ten percent of them journalists.

There were more than a dozen speakers during the event which lasted around two hours. I'll be editing together a clip of some of the statements which should be up tonight. In the meantime, here is a collection of photos taken at the event. Here is the approach to the building where the rally was held.

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Racism Alive and Well at Trayvon Martin Rally in Miami

Jul 20, 2013 3:32 PM PT

In response to 'Justice for Trayvon' Vegas Calls for LeBron James, Dwyane Wade to Leave Miami Heat:

Miami-Today at the National Action Network's 'peaceful' rally to call attention to the Trayvon Martin verdict, local pastors and Representatives gathered together to throw racial red meat to the crowd of about 2000, who came to  support a DOJ civil rights case against George Zimmerman.

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'Justice for Trayvon' Vegas Calls for LeBron James, Dwyane Wade to Leave Miami Heat

Jul 20, 2013 1:43 PM PT

Today at the Las Vegas Justice for Trayvon Rally, National Action Network Las Vegas, Gene Collins called for athletes, both professional and collegiate, to boycott Florida until "black and brown kids will be safe in Florida."

we are here also to ask our sports icons Lebron James, Dewayne Wade [unintelligible] and other professional players in baseball and footballs to change franchises and play for another another franchise until the state of Florida recognizes there has to be change. We also asking the collegiate athletes who have signed contracts and who have signed letters of intent to play for various universities to transfer to another university until the Governor of the state of Florida calls a special session and changes the laws so that African American males and females, black and brown kids will be safe in the state of Florida.

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Saturation Media Coverage for Justice for Trayvon Rallies Today

Jul 20, 2013 11:19 AM PT

In case you haven't heard, there are about 100 "Justice for Trayvon" rallies being held all across the nation, today. I say that with a hint of sarcasm because news about the rallies is hard to miss. Virtually every major news outlet in the country is reporting on the rallies, as you can see from a basic google search I discovered page after page after page of stories about the upcoming rallies while doing a search for news about the ongoing rallies. 

I found that interesting because I've been to rallies that have gotten virtually 0 coverage from the mainstream media. 

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Obama's Hypothetical

Jul 19, 2013 7:33 PM PT

I've had a bit of time to reflect on President Barack Obama's remarks, and his hypothetical--that "if a white male teen was involved in the same kind of scenario, that, from top to bottom, both the outcome and the aftermath might have been different." He meant to imply that society would have been outraged at George Zimmerman and would have rejected a guilty verdict, just as black America (in his telling) has done.

That isn't just wrong. It's completely, 180-degrees wrong. There are countless left-wing groups devoted to championing the cause of defendants wrongly accused of crimes--particularly minorities. Here we have a minority defendant railroaded through a justice system clearly biased against him, with the mainstream media and the political elite spreading all sorts of false information, campaigning for his conviction.

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Obama's race-baiting

Jul 19, 2013 6:17 PM PT

In response to Chris Wallace is Wrong About Obama's Trayvon Statement:

I spent a lot of time crawling through the full text of President Obama's remarks, after hearing the first few attempts to rewrite what he said, read deeper meaning into it, and pump it up into a great Olympian pronouncement on race in America.  As you noted, the basic premise of his speech implies a racial element to the confrontation between Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman that simply did not exist.  It's as though he wants us to compromise with the people who think Zimmerman is a murderous racist who hunted and killed Martin to slake his bloodlust, and concede that maybe Zimmerman is just kinda sorta racist, or an unwitting victim of institutional racism.

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Chris Wallace is Wrong About Obama's Trayvon Statement

Jul 19, 2013 4:11 PM PT

Chris Wallace said on Fox News this afternoon that he did not think that President Barack Obama was stoking racial tensions with his statement today on the acquittal of George Zimmerman in the death of Trayvon Martin. In his view, Obama was simply trying to explain how blacks and whites had reacted to the case.

That is nice, but it accepts a faulty premise. The case had nothing to do with race--as both the prosecution and the defense said, and as an FBI investigation indicated, and as the evidence revealed. By treating the case as if it is somehow a racial issue when it is not, and by doing so the day before nationwide protests organized by a serial race-baiter like Al Sharpton, Obama was certainly creating division where none ought to have existed. I, for one, am tired of seeing an acquitted man be made into the scapegoat for our perceived national sins.

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Chris Wallace is Wrong About Obama's Trayvon Statement

Jul 19, 2013 4:09 PM PT

Chris Wallace said on Fox News this afternoon that he did not think that President Barack Obama was stoking racial tensions with his statement today on the acquittal of George Zimmerman in the death of Trayvon Martin. In his view, Obama was simply trying to explain how blacks and whites had reacted to the case.

That is nice, but it accepts a faulty premise. The case had nothing to do with race--as both the prosecution and the defense said, and as an FBI investigation indicated, and as the evidence revealed. By treating the case as if it is somehow a racial issue when it is not, and by doing so the day before nationwide protests organized by a serial race-baiter like Al Sharpton, Obama was certainly creating division where none ought to have existed. I, for one, am tired of seeing an acquitted man be made into the scapegoat for our perceived national grievances.

Professor Barack 'I Am Trayvon' Obama Gets 'Stand Your Ground' Law Wrong

Jul 19, 2013 1:43 PM PT

In his unfortunate remarks about the Zimmerman verdict Friday, Obama said something about "stand your ground" laws that reflects popular misconceptions seen on social media--hardly befitting a law "professor":

And for those who resist that idea that we should think about something like these “stand your ground” laws, I just ask people to consider if Trayvon Martin was of age and armed, could he have stood his ground on that sidewalk? And do we actually think that he would have been justified in shooting Mr. Zimmerman, who had followed him in a car, because he felt threatened?

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