ELEANOR CLIFT: Let the facts go where they may. It does look like you had some mid-level bureaucrats who did this and their names are going to come out. They are protected by the Civil Service. You only have two political appointees in the IRS, there’s really nobody to fire. There’s really no evidence that this is necessarily illegal. This is inappropriate –
RICH LOWRY: They hid it from Congress.
CLIFT: Excuse me.
LOWRY: They hid it from Congress. They would not answer it. They were asked about it and they wouldn’t say, they wouldn’t reveal it.
CLIFT: I don’t know if hiding something from Congress is illegal either.