Steve Bannon: The push today has been to make it easy as possible, ubiquitous as possible, get them out there. If you lose them there’s almost no requirement to what you have to do to get a replacement. So you see here, you’ve got a combination of, “let’s take away mountain pride,” let’s break down the self-reliance … That’s why the whole thing about breaking mountain pride, it’s to break down that DNA in America of self-reliance and self-determination to get on a government program. So you have the worst of all worlds: Big companies with advanced marketing techniques helping the government get [people] on it.