Who runs California? How badly do they run it? And how do they manage to cling on to power? James talks to Dana Rohrabacher about the loneliness of being a Californian climate sceptic who loves beaches, wildlife and surf, but hates the green fanatics who seem hell bent on destroying life for ordinary, hardworking people. Dana tells James about surviving encounters with sharks, conservationists’ prophecies of doom, and some of the craziest environmental legislation ever conceived. James and Dana finish up with some reflection on positive political campaigning