Pollster and focus group guru Frank Luntz was caught on film Monday urging Joe Biden to pick California Rep. Karen Bass (37th district) as his vice presidential running mate.

Luntz encountered Biden in the U.S. Capitol as both were attending a ceremony for the late U.S. Rep. John Lewis.

As Biden was standing with Democratic National Convention (DNC) Chairman Tom Perez, Luntz stepped forward and told Biden that Bass is “the best person” he could pick as a running mate.

“She is so kind and she is so decent,” Luntz said.

Much of the audio is difficult to decipher, but Biden then turned to Bass and seemed to relay Luntz’s opinions.

The two then walked together through Statuary Hall to the House side of the Capitol.

Bass later appeared on MSNBC and was asked about being Biden’s running mate.

Bass said Biden is going to pick “the best person.”

“I am going to do everything I can to make sure that he gets elected, and once elected make sure that he’s a successful president,” she said.

Bass added she hoped the country can “hang on” until Biden is sworn in.

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