Secret Recordings: How Former Subway Spokesman Jared Fogle Lured Kids into Sex

Subway's Jared Fogle
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Secretly-made recordings of former Subway restaurant spokesman Jared Fogle have gone public, revealing, in his own words, how he lured kids into sexual situations.

The recordings, that were part of the investigation into Jared Fogle’s activities, were made by a woman who had befriended him and then became an FBI informant.

In part, the recordings led to the former TV pitchman being indicted on child porn and child sex charges in August.

Reports early in August noted that Fogle had allegedly bragged that he was having “amazing sex” with a 16-year-old girl. By mid-August, the former Subway spokesman had agreed to plead guilty to federal charges of child porn.

The leaked audio of Fogle’s admissions were aired on the daytime talk show “Dr.Phil” on Thursday, Oct. 29.

The recordings, now being heard in public for the first time since the investigation closed, reveals Jared Fogle, in his own words, discussing his interests in sexual relations with young children.

“I like all ages. That’s the thing, I mean,” Fogle is heard saying on the recording.

Fogle says, of his actions, it “depends” on “who’s gonna give you the glance” and allow initiation of a sexual encounter. “It depends… who is ready for what. You know, who’s going to give you the glance,” he says on the tape.

The recordings were made by Rochelle Herman-Walrond, a former radio host and one-time confidant of Jared Fogle. Herman-Walrond, who met Fogle at a health event at a Florida school, began to make the recordings when she started to suspect he was actually acting out on his desires to have sex with children. She contacted the FBI and became an informant in the case.

Herman-Walrond called Fogle’s braggadocios recordings “disgusting.”

“I felt like I was so dirty,” she told Dr. Phil McGraw on his show on Thursday. “My soul was dirty.”

The FBI informant told the daytime TV host that she spent five years slowly building up a relationship with Fogle, eventually pulling the truth out of the TV adman. At last, he let it all out and revealed the specific details that led to his arrest.

Herman-Walrond said she had finally had enough when Fogle began to ask her if he could make secret videos of her own children.

“What if we, what if we put a camera in your kids’ room, would they be okay with that?” Fogle asks Herman-Walrond on one of the recordings. “Would you rather have it in your son or your daughter’s room? Which one do you think would be better?”

The Subway sandwich chain said they felt duped and betrayed by Fogle, whom they fired as soon as the FBI investigation was announced.

Fogle is now facing five to 12 and a half years in prison and up to a $500,000 fine.

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